Jaded Muslim’s Take on Gay Marriage in California |

A friend of mine sent me a link about how the gay marriage ban has been overturned in California. He was all upset. Since he was a dude he was able to summarize his feelings with a concise, “This Sucks.”

I, on the other hand replied, “I am saving my outrage for when they allow consensual relationships between older gay men and 11 year old boys.” Can anyone say NAMBLA?

I don’t really know how all this gayness got mainstream. If you’re gay and you want to have a private party with your friends and call yourselves married, be my guest. (That was a figure of speech, you’re not really invited to my place.) This is America and here you can do that. But why are you going to FORCE everyone else to recognize that you are married? This is why I don’t like big government. Groups can hi-jack the state and use it’s coercive powers for their own agendas. Can you say neo-conservative, nincompoop Bush-hole?

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8 Responses to “ Jaded Muslim’s Take on Gay Marriage in California ”

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Shirien says:
May 16th, 2008 at 12:32 am

seriously this is scary. May Allah protect us from his wrath. disgusting.

Paul says:
May 16th, 2008 at 1:28 am

It has absolutely nothing at all to do with “forcing” others to recognize a union. Hundreds of rights come with marriage (inheritance, hospital visitation, etc). The government has no business dictating what contracts a person may enter in to based on the gender of the other person.

One of the great things about America is freedom of religion. Your religion isn’t forced to marry people of the same sex. However, if the government is going to follow religion’s definition of marriage, then the government can’t constitutionally be involved in marriage at all. If you want to abolish the rights that come with marriage, fine.

As to your NAMBLA comment, that’s a strawman fallacy and slippery slope fallacy rolled in to one. Children cannot consent to any sort of relationship.

themanoffewwords says:
May 16th, 2008 at 4:11 am

Paul,
I agree that the government has no business dictating what contracts persons may enter. But as you say big government has established certain rights that come with marriage and I think that because of the secular nature of this government these rights should not exist.

Rather the government coercively using taxation and other means of penalizing or benefiting actions that they wish to discourage or encourage respectively is something that I find offensive. In this case for example it leads to a situation where the larger society must legally recognize homosexual marriages.

As I said, as one who enjoys this countries freedom, I am not averse to homosexuals describing themselves as married. I don’t recognize such a thing as a legitimate marriage but I don’t mind disagreements. But for the state to impose upon the rest of it’s citizens the recognition that such a thing is marriage is untenable.

As for the NAMBLA thing, I am glad that you agree that children cannot consent. The folks at NAMBLA however have a different perspective.

Antonia says:
May 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pm

i feel you on this

i am not a muslim but i understand what you mean

i dont care if you r “gay” i do not need to know

i dont understand the fighting for rights and all that

these people keep running into the closets they say they are

coming out from

gabistan says:
May 25th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

i am Muslim and gay marriage in california doesnt bother me. it doesnt concern me so why should i get all up in arms over it? there are hadiths that say not to trouble yourself over other people’s business. you are not being forced to join the ceremony. it is for Allah alone to judge. salam.

Whatever says:
May 26th, 2008 at 4:24 am

Gabistan, it should bother you even though you are not participating in the ceremony because a violation of Allah’s command is occuring. Allah has already judged homosexuality as a horrendous crime. Please read the Quran more often.

themanoffewwords says:
May 26th, 2008 at 5:42 am

Gabestan … the issue is not that it is other people’s business … now it is OUR business. Legal recognition of marriage means that we MUST recognize the legality and acceptability that two men or two women can be married.

It is a form of social compulsion exercised by the government. If my neighbors are having a party and calling it a wedding, that is none of my business … if the government coerces me through legal mechanisms into recognizing gay marriage as legitimate, this becomes my business.

It means it will be taught in schools and if students disagree they can be labeled as racist or accused of spreading hate or even of being extremists.